Surly Disc Trucker 700c vs Surly Ogre
Both published charts held against each other, on the specs that decide what the bike carries.
The short answer
The Disc Trucker 700c takes frame bag space; the Ogre takes tire clearance. Which matters more is your route, not a scoreboard.
Assembled from the differences below rather than written over them, so it cannot drift from the table. Every figure is the manufacturer's; nobody here has ridden either bike.
Where they differ
3 of the 7 things we can compare come out differently. The rest are close enough not to decide anything.
Frame bag space
225 cm² more on the Disc Trucker 700cFront-triangle area at the largest size, computed from stack, reach and seat angle. It is what decides how much full-frame bag you can run, and a frame bag is the one place weight sits low and central.
Widest published tire
29mm more on the OgreThe frame figure, not the fork's — forks are routinely cut for more rubber than the rear triangle. Loaded, tire width is also seat-pack clearance: a big tire and a sagging pack compete for the same space.
Chainstay
10mm longer on the Disc Trucker 700cThe gap between seat tube and rear axle, which a rack, panniers and your heels all share. Longer is more room for a load; shorter is a more compact bike. Which you want is a preference, not a winner.
Side by side
Including the rows where the two are level, because a spec that doesn't separate them is still a spec you might be checking.
| Surly Disc Trucker 700c | Surly Ogre | |
|---|---|---|
| Frame bag space | 1933 cm² | 1708 cm² |
| Widest published tire | 47mm on 700c / 29in | 64mm on 700c / 29in, 76mm on 650b / 27.5in |
| Rear rack | Bolts straight on | Bolts straight on |
| Fork cargo mounts | Published | Published |
| Frame bottle positions | not published as a count | 2 |
| Chainstay | 450mm | 440mm |
| From | $1,799.99 | $1,799 |
| Sizes | 5 | 4 |
| Frame | 4130 Chromoly steel | 4130 Chromoly steel |
Drawn to scale
Largest published size of each, built from the charts rather than illustrated. The front triangle is the part that decides frame bag fit.