Velo Orange

Velo Orange Piolet Geometry & Bikepacking Bag Fit2026

Discontinued. Velo Orange no longer lists the Piolet. It's here because these frames stay in circulation second-hand and the geometry is still what you need to pick bags — but you won't find one new.

Frame
Steel
Wheel size
29in
Max tire
2.6in (650b / 27.5in)
From
$649
Sizes
4

Velo Orange Piolet frame geometry, drawn to scale

Every tube angle and length below is from the published chart, not an illustration. The front triangle area is the number that decides which frame bags fit — and it changes a lot across sizes.

Velo Orange Piolet — S. Front triangle ≈ 1227 cm² · effective top tube 548mm · seat tube 468mm
Velo Orange Piolet in size S, drawn to scale from Velo Orange's published geometry. The shaded area is the front triangle — roughly 1227 cm² of space for a frame bag. Wheels are indicative; frame lines are accurate.
Velo Orange Piolet — M. Front triangle ≈ 1341 cm² · effective top tube 578mm · seat tube 483mm
Velo Orange Piolet in size M, drawn to scale from Velo Orange's published geometry. The shaded area is the front triangle — roughly 1341 cm² of space for a frame bag. Wheels are indicative; frame lines are accurate.
Velo Orange Piolet — L. Front triangle ≈ 1507 cm² · effective top tube 609mm · seat tube 518mm
Velo Orange Piolet in size L, drawn to scale from Velo Orange's published geometry. The shaded area is the front triangle — roughly 1507 cm² of space for a frame bag. Wheels are indicative; frame lines are accurate.
Velo Orange Piolet — XL. Front triangle ≈ 1662 cm² · effective top tube 629mm · seat tube 553mm
Velo Orange Piolet in size XL, drawn to scale from Velo Orange's published geometry. The shaded area is the front triangle — roughly 1662 cm² of space for a frame bag. Wheels are indicative; frame lines are accurate.

What this frame gives a loaded bike

Chainstay length is the gap between the seat tube and the rear axle, which a rack, panniers and your heels all have to share. Bottom bracket drop is how far the cranks sit below the axles. Both are compared against the median across every current frame we hold.

430-460mm chainstays, 10mm longer than the 435mm median across the 65 current frames here. Bottom bracket drop 40-70mm, 15mm less than the 70mm median. The fork publishes cargo mounts, and the frame publishes up to 3 bottle or accessory positions. Velo Orange states the frame does not take a rear rack. Widest published tire 66mm on 650b / 27.5in, 61mm on 700c / 29in, 61mm on 26in.

Every figure above is the manufacturer's, computed against the rest of the database. It says what the frame allows, not how it feels — nobody here has ridden it.

What it can carry

Mount provision and clearance, as Velo Orange publishes it.

Fork mounts
Lowrider thru bosses on fork
Bottle mounts
Water bottle mounts: 3 sets on frame, 2 sets on fork blades
Rack & fender
Dropouts: Thru Axle with 2 braze on's; 2 sets of seatstay rack eyelets
Max tire clearance
61mm on 700c / 29in66mm on 650b / 27.5in61mm on 26in

Velo Orange's wording: “Tire: 29" x 2.4" or 27.5 x 2.6" (M, L, XL), 26" x 2.4 (S)”

Geometry

All figures in millimeters except angles. Effective top tube and seat tube are the two that decide frame bag fit.

SizeEff. top tubeSeat tubeStandoverHead tubeStackReachChainstayWheelbaseBB dropHead angleSeat angle
S54846875615054838143010444071°73°
M57848378213559140846011077071.5°74°
L60951881416561941946011277071.5°73°
XL62955384319064343246011487071.5°73°

Bottom bracket height

Roughly 305–335mm off the ground. Velo Orange doesn't publish this directly — we derive it from their BB drop and a typical 75cm tire diameter, so treat it as indicative rather than exact. It changes with the tire you fit. Lower means more stable and more pedal strikes; higher means the opposite.

Source — Velo Orange's own geometry chart: https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-piolet-frameset — checked 2026-08-18. A dash means the figure isn't published; we leave it blank rather than estimate.

Note: Manufacturer page says "Last chance to get a Piolet!" Wheel size is size-specific: "Wheel Size: 29" & 27.5+ (M, L, XL), 26" (S)". Product copy also says "Medium, Large, and XL use 29 x 2.4" or 27.5 x 2.8" tires," while the spec bullet lists 27.5 x 2.6. Geometry chart image publishes lengths in millimetres and angles in degrees.

Questions people ask about this frame

Answered from what Velo Orange publish. Where they publish nothing, that is what it says.

Does the Piolet take fork cargo cages?

Yes. Velo Orange publish cargo-cage mounts on the fork, but the wording does not give a count we can stand behind, so we're not going to put a number on it.

What is the widest tyre the Piolet takes?

66mm on 650b / 27.5in. Across the wheel sizes Velo Orange publish: 61mm on 700c / 29in, 66mm on 650b / 27.5in, 61mm on 26in. Those are frame figures, not the fork's — forks are routinely cut for more rubber than the rear triangle.

Will a seat pack work on the Piolet?

Not published. Velo Orange don't state dropper compatibility for this frame, so we can't tell you whether a dropper would compete with a seat pack on it.

Which frame bags fit

Every frame bag we track, checked against this frame's published geometry. Pick your size.

Checking 16 frame bags against a 609mm effective top tube and 518mm seat tube. 16 fit.

Excellent fit
Moosetreks Full Frame Bag

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$60
300g
Excellent fit
Revelate Designs Joey Downtube Bag 1L

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$75
108g
Excellent fit
Revelate Designs Joey Downtube Bag 2L

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$75
136g
Excellent fit
Topeak MidLoader 4.5L

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$78
195g
Excellent fit
Blackburn Outpost Frame Bag Medium

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$80
280g
Excellent fit
Apidura Backcountry Frame Pack 1L

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$81
100g
Excellent fit
Topeak MidLoader 6L

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$93
337g
Excellent fit
Oveja Negra Superwedgie 2.0 Frame Bag

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$120
198g
Excellent fit
Apidura Racing Frame Pack

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$151
145g
Excellent fit
Revelate Designs Ranger Frame Bag

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$155
340g
Excellent fit
Ortlieb Frame-Pack RC

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$165
221g
Excellent fit
Ortlieb Frame-Pack Toptube 3L

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$165
170g
Excellent fit
Apidura Expedition Frame Pack 3.8L

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$168
244g
Excellent fit
Ortlieb Frame-Pack Toptube 4L

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$170
200g
Excellent fit
Rockgeist Half Frame Bag

Plenty of room in frame triangle

$190
170g
Good fit
Apidura Expedition Full Frame Pack

Good fit within frame triangle

$232
358g

Frame bag fit is calculated from Velo Orange's published geometry, so it's as reliable as their chart. Seat packs and handlebar rolls depend on your exposed seatpost and bar width, which no geometry table lists — the bag finder covers those once you add your own measurements.